What do you believe?
RavMonsourZaidan
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Through the years, as the number of Gentiles belivers increased, they began to predominate in this Messianic faith. With the passing of the Jewish Apostles, and the early Messianic Jews, the Jewish roots of the faith were eventually lost. This " De-Judaizing " process continued in one of the greatest paradoxes in history, it became alien for a Jewish person to believe in Yeshua as his Messiah! Was Yeshua the Messiah? Out of God's own mouth, prophecy and historical evidence just seems to continue to lead to him. Isaiah 53:1-6 is the first indication that an everlasting atonement for mans sins would be made, and it would be made by a man, the Annointed One of Salvation. Isaiah 9:6-7; Micah; Daniel 9:24-26;
Isaiah 49:6-7; Jeremiah 31:31-34; Deuteronomy 18:15-19 ( Moses Spoke About Him ) Zechariah 9:9 Daniel 7:13-14.
2/8/2002 10:07:58 PM
Part IV:========
Through the years, as the number of Gentiles belivers increased, they began to predominate in this Messianic faith. With the passing of the Jewish Apostles, and the early Messianic Jews, the Jewish roots of the faith were eventually lost. This " De-Judaizing " process continued in one of the greatest paradoxes in history, it became alien for a Jewish person to believe in Yeshua as his Messiah! Was Yeshua the Messiah? Out of God's own mouth, prophecy and historical evidence just seems to continue to lead to him. Isaiah 53:1-6 is the first indication that an everlasting atonement for mans sins would be made, and it would be made by a man, the Annointed One of Salvation. Isaiah 9:6-7; Micah; Daniel 9:24-26;
Isaiah 49:6-7; Jeremiah 31:31-34; Deuteronomy 18:15-19 ( Moses Spoke About Him ) Zechariah 9:9 Daniel 7:13-14.
RavMonsourZaidan
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From the book of Acts and other historical evidence, many believe that in the first century there were literally hundreds of thousands of Messianic Jews. In addition, there were Messianic synogogues scattered throut the Roman Empire and beyond.
These fisrt century Messianic Jews remained highly loyal to their land and their people. Whether it was Jewish to believe in Yeshua was never an issue. Of course it was Jewish! What else could it be? The big question back then was whether Yeshua had been sent for the Gentiles also. When God miraculously showed the Messianic Jews that he was the Messiah for both Jew and Gentile alike, then Gentiles from every nation began to pour into this Jewish faith.
2/8/2002 9:53:51 PM
Part III:=========
From the book of Acts and other historical evidence, many believe that in the first century there were literally hundreds of thousands of Messianic Jews. In addition, there were Messianic synogogues scattered throut the Roman Empire and beyond.
These fisrt century Messianic Jews remained highly loyal to their land and their people. Whether it was Jewish to believe in Yeshua was never an issue. Of course it was Jewish! What else could it be? The big question back then was whether Yeshua had been sent for the Gentiles also. When God miraculously showed the Messianic Jews that he was the Messiah for both Jew and Gentile alike, then Gentiles from every nation began to pour into this Jewish faith.
RavMonsourZaidan
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The false doctrine that Jews as a nation rejected their Messiah is a falsehood. The early church was Jewish. The question is is it Jewish to believe in Yeshua? To some, the concept of a Jew believing in Yeshua seems to be a contradiction. The reason is, many people have a dichotomy set up in their minds. On one hand, you have Jews and Judaism and on the other hand, Christians and Christianity. You are either one or the other, so the thinking goes.
But this simple dichotomy is in reality not so simple. If we go back 2000 years we find that Yeshua was a Jew living in a Jewish land among Jewish people. All the Apostles were Jewish as well as the writers of the New Covenant and for many years this faith in Yeshua was strictly a Jewish one.
2/8/2002 9:46:12 PM
Part II:========
The false doctrine that Jews as a nation rejected their Messiah is a falsehood. The early church was Jewish. The question is is it Jewish to believe in Yeshua? To some, the concept of a Jew believing in Yeshua seems to be a contradiction. The reason is, many people have a dichotomy set up in their minds. On one hand, you have Jews and Judaism and on the other hand, Christians and Christianity. You are either one or the other, so the thinking goes.
But this simple dichotomy is in reality not so simple. If we go back 2000 years we find that Yeshua was a Jew living in a Jewish land among Jewish people. All the Apostles were Jewish as well as the writers of the New Covenant and for many years this faith in Yeshua was strictly a Jewish one.
RavMonsourZaidan
inhumanely without pity or compassion
throughout history. Unfortunately, it was done under the Christian banner of the apostate church which is the seat of Satan. Then again God
addressed the issues of why the Israelites were delivered over into captivity. Some of the problems we sufferred were a direct result of our own actions. So do all Christian churches act the same way? There is the apostate church and there is some apostasy in every church just as there is in Judaism. Moses talked about the " Annointed One of Salvation.
2/8/2002 9:23:31 PM
We all know why Jews reject Jesus and/or Yeshua, The biggest reason is that they have been taught not to believe in Him. Philosophically speaking, there is no philosophy, just an opinion. What really lies behind the dichotomy of Jewish thought is that Jews have sufferredinhumanely without pity or compassion
throughout history. Unfortunately, it was done under the Christian banner of the apostate church which is the seat of Satan. Then again God
addressed the issues of why the Israelites were delivered over into captivity. Some of the problems we sufferred were a direct result of our own actions. So do all Christian churches act the same way? There is the apostate church and there is some apostasy in every church just as there is in Judaism. Moses talked about the " Annointed One of Salvation.
dapudgiebear
God did not gaurrantee Isreal to the jews. In Exodus he made them walk 40 yrs in the desert till they all had died but one, Moses and even he wasn't allowed into that land that WAS promised.
God took back His promise due to their broken one.
Please take your noses out of your books and look around you. See the world. Make it a better place for children and everyone!
Don't kill or attack people nor make any religion out to be exclusive to Our God only!
Thanks bye
from Da bear
12/31/2001 10:08:42 PM
Hello again. No. I do not wish to belong to any organized religious belief. I believe in God and He provides the places where I worship, they vary and there is no collection plate. Nor must I have any body parts removed. God did not gaurrantee Isreal to the jews. In Exodus he made them walk 40 yrs in the desert till they all had died but one, Moses and even he wasn't allowed into that land that WAS promised.
God took back His promise due to their broken one.
Please take your noses out of your books and look around you. See the world. Make it a better place for children and everyone!
Don't kill or attack people nor make any religion out to be exclusive to Our God only!
Thanks bye
from Da bear
proudjew
12/14/2001 4:38:46 PM
You dont have to be born into Judaism to be a Jew. If your going to convert, I would recommend a year of studying the customs and such(taking classes and reading books).A man must be circumsized(if already, blood must be drawn from the circumsized area) and for men and women, they both must take a mikveh(a ritual cleasing bath)this is just to be considered a Jew. For any other qualifications, you need to talk to a rabbi about his desires or what you should do, according to his beliefs. Some of the more orthodox will want you to keep a certain commandment, the more reform are more like keeping/attending Sabbath services. Judaism is no way a born into religon.
dapudgiebear
Reread Jewish history, hasn't God always required that CHILDREN be protected? Did he care whether they were JEWS? When they were sacrificed to their parents gods, did HE care?
Do something for children and to change the world. Get back that connection to God and quit trying to be part of an exclusive group. He made us all, all of us, everywhere!
12/7/2001 6:02:25 PM
One more thing, that I wasn't able to add here before, 1025 characters and all. What does it take to be a JEW? Do you have to be born to it? Isn't what is required in the TORAH? Which was written from MISHNA (Memory?) Are JEWS in a special and EXCLUSIVE CLUB that only those born to it can belong? Yeah? In your opinion. Well reread the Torah then. It says it there. I call it the first five books of the bible, the Pentatauch. It is the same words. Reread Jewish history, hasn't God always required that CHILDREN be protected? Did he care whether they were JEWS? When they were sacrificed to their parents gods, did HE care?
Do something for children and to change the world. Get back that connection to God and quit trying to be part of an exclusive group. He made us all, all of us, everywhere!
Dapudgiebear
PEACE!
12/4/2001 11:52:47 PM
I'm supposed to count this, not more than 1024 characters...OK!***Can God do what He wants? Can God have Sons & Daughters, if He wants to? We all know the answer to that one. Who cares who was what? Why worry about people who accept Jesus and call themselves Jews. Aren't there female Rabbi's that the Orthodox Jew won't accept? Too many fiercely angry Jews against Christians, similar to the Christians angry with Jews. Worry about children being exploited and used in this world. Worry about the hungry. Do something to make the world a better place. Don't second guess God!PEACE!
howiedds
8/20/2001 10:57:59 PM
Ultima: It was hard to figure out what you were saying about 1/2 way down your post,but what you think that Jews believe about hell and blasphemy is uninformed. This is an uncomfortable format to let you know about Jewish beliefs so look for me on Learn about Judaism or Judaism Challenge and Critique where we can discuss it.
LissaJ
8/17/2001 11:04:44 AM
My personal belief is that He has a real, flesh and blood body that is glorified. He had children, and Jesus was the first-born. He is a separate personage, also with a real, flesh and blood body. He was the final sacrifice (lamb) for sins. I can't seem to find the scripture right now, but it says somewhere that He will come in like a lamb the first time and be the sacrifice, and He will come again, like a lion, in might and power...
LissaJ
8/17/2001 10:41:49 AM
I have a question for the Jews. Do you believe that G-d has a real physical body or that he is a spirit, as is so often believed by most Christian churches today?