What do you believe?
DEUCEPREZ
You stated: "Wars where imposition of religion or religious views was a significant factor in the reason for war are virtually unheard off [before Christians and Muslims arrived on the subcontinent]".
In its seminal stages, all wars in which Muslims were involved were in defense. It wasn't until several years later that Muslims took aggressive action (i.e. offensive wars). And even then, the religion of al-Islàm was never imposed upon the population, as some "so-called" historians falsely publicize that "....Islàm was spread by the sword". Even non-Muslim non-Muslim historians know and state this to be an anti-Islamic myth. The population was allowed to speak their own language, practice their own religion and so forth.
8/7/2007 8:30:54 AM
arjun:You stated: "Wars where imposition of religion or religious views was a significant factor in the reason for war are virtually unheard off [before Christians and Muslims arrived on the subcontinent]".
In its seminal stages, all wars in which Muslims were involved were in defense. It wasn't until several years later that Muslims took aggressive action (i.e. offensive wars). And even then, the religion of al-Islàm was never imposed upon the population, as some "so-called" historians falsely publicize that "....Islàm was spread by the sword". Even non-Muslim non-Muslim historians know and state this to be an anti-Islamic myth. The population was allowed to speak their own language, practice their own religion and so forth.
DEUCEPREZ
You stated, "The point is that those Christians and Muslims who claim that humans in all other paths are spiritually lost and led by the devil have to answer to a higher standard, to back up there statements, since such people are sowing discord and unhappiness in the human familly."
Not so.
"Those who believe (in the Qur'àn), those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Sabians and the Christians,- any who believe in Allah and the Last Day, and work righteousness,- on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve." Holy Qu'ràn 5:69
8/7/2007 8:22:29 AM
Arjun:You stated, "The point is that those Christians and Muslims who claim that humans in all other paths are spiritually lost and led by the devil have to answer to a higher standard, to back up there statements, since such people are sowing discord and unhappiness in the human familly."
Not so.
"Those who believe (in the Qur'àn), those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Sabians and the Christians,- any who believe in Allah and the Last Day, and work righteousness,- on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve." Holy Qu'ràn 5:69
calebevans218
Not all Christians believe this. I know many who don't, including myself.
Peace,
Caleb
1/9/2006 6:08:14 PM
"The fact that Christians claim that Hell exists is a fundamental failure of Christian idea of God. Why should billions of humans be put in eternal damination, many of them for no fault of theres. Even those who have done something wrong, how does a supposedly "loving God" demonstrate his love by sending his own children to Hell for eternity ?"Not all Christians believe this. I know many who don't, including myself.
Peace,
Caleb
arjun
>> And in this I see luvSriGanesha and arjun as being no different than them. <<
I have pointed out exactly what I consider to be errors in Christian theology and there practices, also my reasons for the claim. What is
the exact problem you have with that ?
Arjun
1/4/2006 5:00:57 PM
Travellingthru,>> And in this I see luvSriGanesha and arjun as being no different than them. <<
I have pointed out exactly what I consider to be errors in Christian theology and there practices, also my reasons for the claim. What is
the exact problem you have with that ?
Arjun
frjimod
Christianity worships One God,who is Love and, then,must be moer than one person in eternity (who is there to love and to recieve in love if God is one person).The Trinity is One God of One Eternal essence,substance(Ousia)Being(Sat),Consciousness(citta) and Bliss(ananda) and Indivisible,but distinct in 3 Persons(hypostases) ,according to Christian revelation. The Trinity is not 3 separate gods.
Many Hindus have similar views of the Godhead,but Christianity teaches that we are not an aspect in essence of the divine but that we are created and will be distinct from God everlastingly ,yet we can come to full union with Him for that is our purpose for being. Atman is not a Christian concept of the self
I think parents should introduce their children to other religions,but the family should nurture and well instruct the children in their own religion in its richness first. thankyou. frjimod
1/4/2006 10:58:43 AM
Dear Arjun,Christianity worships One God,who is Love and, then,must be moer than one person in eternity (who is there to love and to recieve in love if God is one person).The Trinity is One God of One Eternal essence,substance(Ousia)Being(Sat),Consciousness(citta) and Bliss(ananda) and Indivisible,but distinct in 3 Persons(hypostases) ,according to Christian revelation. The Trinity is not 3 separate gods.
Many Hindus have similar views of the Godhead,but Christianity teaches that we are not an aspect in essence of the divine but that we are created and will be distinct from God everlastingly ,yet we can come to full union with Him for that is our purpose for being. Atman is not a Christian concept of the self
I think parents should introduce their children to other religions,but the family should nurture and well instruct the children in their own religion in its richness first. thankyou. frjimod
TravellingThru
1/4/2006 9:49:10 AM
Firstly I will say I am a Hindu. Secondly I was educated in Catholic Schools. Over the years I have had my share of Christians trying to teach me the error of my ways. And in this I see luvSriGanesha and arjun as being no different than them. For luvSriGanesha to condemn this young woman's parents as being failures as Hindus in their upbringing of their daughter is as offensive as everything she accuses Christians of having done/been. luvSriGanesha's statement "Hinduism doesn't force anyone to do anything! Christianity is the religion that tries to terrorize people and scare them into believing in a vengeful GOD!" puts lie to everything she says about this young woman being dragged into a mandir and taught to love Krishna.
luvSriGanesha
12/25/2005 2:46:47 PM
http://www.gitamrta.org/
arjun
The point is that those Christians and Muslims who claim that humans in all other paths are spiritually lost and led by the devil have to answer to a higher standard, to back up there statements, since such people are sowing discord and unhappiness in the human familly. Hindus dont claim that muslims and Christians are spiritually lost.
>> Were there any wars on the subcontinent before Christians and Muslims arrived? <<
Wars where imposition of religion or religious views was a significant factor in the reason for war are virtually unheard off.
>> Are there any good Christians and Muslims in the world? <<
Definetly.
>. Does Krishna, defined as a non-punishing, all-loving God, really care about a person's concept of God? <<
Most Hindus believe that he cares for the spiritual state of a person rather than the specific theology floating in our heads.
Arjun
12/25/2005 2:03:53 PM
>> Is there only one theological idea in Islam and Christianity? <<The point is that those Christians and Muslims who claim that humans in all other paths are spiritually lost and led by the devil have to answer to a higher standard, to back up there statements, since such people are sowing discord and unhappiness in the human familly. Hindus dont claim that muslims and Christians are spiritually lost.
>> Were there any wars on the subcontinent before Christians and Muslims arrived? <<
Wars where imposition of religion or religious views was a significant factor in the reason for war are virtually unheard off.
>> Are there any good Christians and Muslims in the world? <<
Definetly.
>. Does Krishna, defined as a non-punishing, all-loving God, really care about a person's concept of God? <<
Most Hindus believe that he cares for the spiritual state of a person rather than the specific theology floating in our heads.
Arjun
arunma
12/25/2005 1:06:38 AM
So Ganesha, now you've resorted to the "Skeptic's Annotated Bible?" Please tell me this isn't the best that Hinduism has to offer.
tonygalli
12/24/2005 8:46:54 PM
Are there are any contradictions in Hinduism? Is there only one theological idea in Islam and Christianity? Were there any wars on the subcontinent before Christians and Muslims arrived? Are there any good Christians and Muslims in the world? Does Krishna, defined as a non-punishing, all-loving God, really care about a person's concept of God?
luvSriGanesha
http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/contra/by_name.html
http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/
12/23/2005 2:05:12 PM
Contradictions in the Biblehttp://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/contra/by_name.html
http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/
arjun
ASSUME what you want, Xianity's gencoide against various cultures in world history inspired by the sickening zeal to enforce there religion on others are well documented.
You must study the Goa inquisiton to understand how Xian fundmantalists brutalized Indian Hindus, some of which may have been your very own ancestors .
Arjun
12/23/2005 2:53:49 AM
Continued from above..ASSUME what you want, Xianity's gencoide against various cultures in world history inspired by the sickening zeal to enforce there religion on others are well documented.
You must study the Goa inquisiton to understand how Xian fundmantalists brutalized Indian Hindus, some of which may have been your very own ancestors .
Arjun