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9/28/2001 6:35 PM
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The attack on America has brought out America's religious colors. The result is that it's true what they say. God is everywhere. On our billboards, in our newspapers, on TV. In fact, the way President Bush presents it, God is even a confirmed and universally accepted entity. The message of Americanism today is: you're not completely patriotic unless you sing "god bless America."

The national religious fervor may stir up the American spirit, but it also leaves the Atheist and the Freethinker way out in the cold. The non believer
is inundated with god in everything we see and hear. We, as a society, react with horror to stories of racial hatred towards Arab Americans. But no one
seems to care how the Atheist feels. Non-believers are just as moritified and angry about senseless terrorism and genocide. But the nationwide turn to the supernatural is, in effect, a collective and official repudiation of Atheistic values and the non-believers' rights as American citizens. It seems to confirm a statement once made by former President Bush: "I don't consider Atheists to be American citizens."

Must non believers retrench into foxholes until Americans rediscover their senses? Is there anybody out there who's willing to publically account for the nonbeliever's response to the terror attacks, and the value of a godless contribution to America? Atheists and Freethinkers are just as much Americans as everybody else. We're not out to tear down America's ethical and moral foundation. No matter how religious this country wants to be, all we want is an America driven by logic and rational thought.

--Marc Levenson
ID: palebluedot

10/6/2001 2:54 PM
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I'm glad somebody agrees with me. I live in Utah, and I tried to explain how alienated I felt as a non-religious person in this current national climate to a friend, and they said they didn't think there was an overabundance of religiousness. Of course he doesn't, he's an avid Mormon. Come on. National PRAYER and Remembrance Day? This is all typical of Dubya's administration, like his faith-based initiative and his pandering to the religious vote. I really feel like my voice and my concerns are ignored, like those in charge think we Americans who choose not to be religious--atheists, agnostics, freethinkers, humanists--are a minority they can ignore.

10/7/2001 11:26 AM
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I may not be American but I too have felt the effects of September 11th. But things haven't changed too much for me. They are pretty much the same as they always were except for airport security. I don't conisder myself Athiest or Christian or any religion with a name for that matter. But the general idea where I live is that you are a moron unless you are Christian. Personally, I think those people are morons. People who judge our beliefs as nonsense before they even listen to them. What all countries need is for someone who is openminded to lead the country and show everyone what they are missing. Actually, I don't think President Bush is nearly as Christian as he makes himself out to be. Praising God and putting down non-Christians would be a very effective way of winning Christian votes. And it is the Christian votes that count, since most Americans are Christian. People look at Nazis as evil people who are (were) destined for Hell because of all the death and suffering they inflicted. But why? Christianity has done far more damage than any other religion in history and only has so many followers because of all the atrocities they committed. For example, the Crusades. How many non-Christians were killed simply because they didn't praise the Christian God? How about European explorers such as Magellan? Every inhabited island he came to he said "Abandon your faith and praise our God or die." That's very sad considering beliefs are the hardest thing to give up. Americans wonder why anyone would do something like kill thousands of innocent people. But from the terrorists view, those people weren't innocent. It's as simple as that. Bush had better drop all of this religious b/s FAST or September 11th will only be the beginning.

10/7/2001 8:23 PM
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As an atheist I can't say that I'm not insulted by Dubya's talk of 'God bless this' and 'lets pray for that'... but he has caused no harm.
If it was a case of GWB making this attack an excuse to push his religion it would be another case entirely, but so far I have seen nothing but tolerance. I heard reference to 'our muslim brothers' and support of the idea that all religions worship the same god in a different way. It may go against my beliefs personally, but it is George's strong attept at religious tolerance, to avoid a Holy War and minimize backlash. Keep in mind that this wasn't easy, since we all know of his strong christian background. As an American and believer in diversity, I respect his efforts. As a christian, Bush falls back on his faith to find strength in times of crisis. (althought just between me and this forum, I'd appreciate it if he wouldn't do it publically)
Yes we feel put out because of all the God talk, but we have to make some allowances. So long as no rights are being infringed upon, and no hate being cultivated, I don't see a problem with this.

My humble opinion ^_^


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