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Saturn88
9/4/2006 6:58 PM
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I started a thread in "Learning about Buddhism" about Monkey Mind. The postings really had more to do with meditation, so I moved my questions here.

Zen Monk wrote - "Watching the mind, becoming aware of the monkey mind, we can begin to see that we no more actively think the thoughts, in the sense that we might usually assume, than we consciously grow our own hair. The thoughts are spontaneous, not from some thing that thinks them beyond the brain itself. The brain secretes thoughts just as the stomach secretes pepsin."

Are you saying that it's impossible to quiet the mind during meditation? That we will always have varoius thoughts runing around while we sit in zazen?

Peace and Compassion



Monki
9/4/2006 7:29 PM
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Are you saying that it's impossible to quiet the mind during meditation? That we will always have varoius thoughts runing around while we sit in zazen?

You can't quiet the mind. However, the mind can quiet itself. The more you relax into the present moment the more quite the mind will become. But, it will do so in it's own time.



Dharmascribe
9/4/2006 9:46 PM
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The Tibetan Buddhist approach to quietening the mind is scientific and experiential and done via the nine stages of developing calm abiding.

You can find a chart illustrating these nine levels in Geshe Rabten's the perfection of concentration. He was a lama renowned for having developed such perfect concentration, ie, the ultimate quiet mind.



termite
9/4/2006 11:21 PM
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Are you saying that it's impossible to quiet the mind during meditation? That we will always have varoius thoughts runing around while we sit in zazen?

Well, you can't make it happen, because the "you" that tries to "quiet the mind" is actually that guy swinging by his tail. :) Monkey mind is actually inattention; these thoughts are really just one distraction after another. Monkey mind thinks it's the "doer," the "controller," but it's actually noise that comes up out of the functioning of mind.

Real meditaton is letting go of that "control," and mindfully attending to what is actually present. If that's watching the breath, then it's watching fully, and not wandering off to "what's for dinner tonight."


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