Tisha B'Av: The Oldest Story in the Book

Can Jews turn Tisha B'Av, a day of mourning, into a time for healing?

jscheid2003@yahoo.com

07/27/2010 01:27:46 PM

ebroth@gis.net ... would have me believe that the Jewish God is quite a variable sort. If His directorship should annoy any of those in the company of His fold, then all they need do is wait a century or two or so or more.

ebroth@gis.net

07/20/2010 02:02:35 PM

I do not lament on Tish Avov. I read the Pentateuch in translation and see the hereditary priesthood of the Temple "interpreting" the word of GOD to create a "Union contract" benefiting themselves. I beleive I have seen "corruption" in the ruins below Jerusalem of the home of not the High Priest, but one of the priests. I believe that the destruction of the Temple should be giving us the message that GOD looked on the Temple and the Priesthood as a useless and harmful antediluvian meiseh whose time had come to disappear. I enjoy the era of the Rabbis and Synagogues as more "today", more democratic than what was destroyed. I rejoice in the destruction of the Temple and the Priesthood. Therefore I stay away from services on that day. My GOD was much more open then the one the priests imagined. Most all of the detail of how to build an Orem Kodesh, or a temple was minutiae that MY GOD would have left to the Israelites, with three words,"Do It Nicely". "I trust your collective judgements."

MusicalMe27

07/18/2010 11:06:03 PM

I understand what windbender says, that we are obliged to bless G-d in the midst of suffering. And that binarystar adds that we cannot see the positive consequences of a misfortune. But please explain to me what will be a positive consequence of the sudden death of my beloved husband, and devoted father of our son. How are we supposed to bless Hashem? How am I supposed to thank HIM for letting my best friend, lover and other half of my soul disappear in a blink of an eye? There is no answer to this, and there is no good consequence to it: just tear-filled nights.

moontorah

08/14/2005 03:18:59 PM

I too am of the thought that perhaps what we need most is perspective--and THAT amigos, takes TIME! May we all have the grace of knowing that together with LOVE, everything else is just TIME... Blessings, Moontorah

debicar

08/14/2005 11:17:24 AM

I am not a Jew by desent. My mother's step-father was Jacob Jacobson. Our family has a rich memory of his contribution to our lives. I am an avid Bible student who wishes to learn more of the deep things of God. I hope I am welcome to this forum. I have one comment,In reading the commentaries on Torah, I have gained much insight into the familiar stories. I have been told that as a tot my first word to my father was "why". These commentaries answer my "why's". Thank you.

windbender

08/13/2005 08:56:48 PM

"...we are obliged to bless G-d in the midst of suffering..." Amein

binarystar

08/13/2005 08:42:17 AM

Dear Reuven: Thank you for sharing that perspective. Your comment illuminated something I had always found puzzling in my Jewish studies -- the idea that even disasters and misfortunes are in some esoteric sense sent by G!d for our benefit, and may have positive consequences much further down the line that we can't foresee, and its twin concept, that we are obliged to bless G!d in the midst of suffering as well as in good times. Thanks for the thought!

Ruven@heresy

08/11/2005 08:59:18 AM

Tisha B'Av is the date that allowed us to survive to modern times by freeing us from the tryanny of Temple worhsip. Would we have produced an Einstein if we were still offering animal sacrifices on a bloody altar? Without the destruction of the Second Temple, would rabbinic Judaism ever evolved? Of all the things that have happened to us in the last 2000 years, the destruction of the Second Temple was the most beneficial. One does not know the significance of an event except in retrospect.

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