The Most Important Muslim You've Never Heard of

Warith Deen Mohammed, spiritual leader of thousands of U.S. Muslims, dramatically changed Islam in America.

mscc

09/05/2009 03:35:31 PM

Peace Be Unto You, In the name of Allah (G-d), the Beneficent, the Merciful, The one God to whom All praises are due forever. The discussion(s) here need to be geared toward the actual reading of The Holy Qur'an. The Book which was sent down by inspiration from G_d, as a blessing, a guide and a warning. The word and work expressed through The Prophet Mohammad, was and is for ALL mankind. The work picks up and includes the trail of all the other times G-d, sent word to mankind of the needed guidance to be able to return to HIM and him alone. Man is to return to true brotherhood, not continue with the decension and sect name calling. G-d is forever present and watching us ALL. If we each earnestly embraced our part of faith (truly) the natural order of true brotherhood who come forth and its existance would aid, heal and prosper man throughout the earth. As to who, is who and who is right......as the The Holy Qur'an states.."you continue in your way and I in my way and in the end...Allah (G-d) will decide." Peace Be Unto You.

Shihab_uddin

09/29/2003 04:33:18 AM

The Prophet(PBUH) on slavery Whosoever kills his slave: he shall be killed. Whosoever imprisons his slave and starves him, he shall be imprisoned and starved himself, and whosoever castrates his slave shall himself be castrated. (Abu Dawud, Diyat, 70; Tirmidhi, Diyat, 17; Al-Nasa’i, Qasama, 10, 16) You should know that no Arab is superior over a non-Arab and, no non-Arab is superior over any Arab, no white is superior over black and no black is superior over white. Superiority is by righteousness and God-fearing [alone]. (Ibn Hanbal, Musnad, 411) Your servants and your slaves are your brothers. Anyone who has slaves should give them from what he eats and wears. He should not charge them with work beyond their capabilities. If you must set them to hard work, in any case I advise you to help them. (Bukhari, Iman, 22; Adab, 44; Muslim, Iman, 38–40; Abu Dawud, Adab, 124)

Shihab_uddin

09/29/2003 04:31:31 AM

Surah 24:34 Let those who find not the wherewithal for marriage keep themselves chaste, until Allah gives them means out of His grace. And if your slaves ask for a deed in writing (for emanicaipation) give him such a deed if you know any good in them; yea, give them something yourselves out of the means which Allah has given you..... Surah 47:4 So when you meet in battle those who disbelieve, then smite the necks until when you have overcome them, then make (them) prisoners, and afterwards either set them free as a favor or let them ransom (themselves) until the war terminates…

Shihab_uddin

09/29/2003 04:29:43 AM

Don't take the Actions of some Muslims and apply them across the board. Islam entered Africa as a place of refuge dating from the time of the Prophet(PBUH). Not by the actions of those that were not following the injuctions of the Quran or Prophet(PBUH) which pushed more toward freeing slaves and/or treating them as equally. Surah 90:11-17 But he has made not haste on the path that is steep. And what will explain the path that is steep?- freeing the slave or the giving of food in a day of privation to the orphan with claims of relationship or to the indigent in the dust. Then will he be of those who believe, and enjoin patience, and enjoin deeds of kindness and compassion.

Shihab_uddin

09/29/2003 04:27:03 AM

Truthshines According to Arab oral tradition, Islam first came to Africa with Muslim refugees fleeing persecution in the Arab peninsula. This was followed by a military invasion, some seven years after the death of the prophet Mohammed in 639, under the command of the Muslim Arab General, Amr ibn al-Asi. It quickly spread West from Alexandria in North Africa (the Maghreb), reducing the Christians to pockets in Egypt, Nubia and Ethiopia. Islam came to root along the East African coast some time in the 8th century, as part of a continuing dialogue between the people on the East coast and traders from the Persian Gulf and Oman. Like early Christianity, Islam was monotheistic, that is, Muslims worship only one God. Islam was a modernising influence, imposing a consistent order among different societies, strengthening powers of government and breaking down ethnic loyalties. www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/africa/features/storyofafrica/index_section7.shtml

truthshines

09/21/2003 02:32:04 PM

"Slavery has been a part of Mauritanian society for centuries. Over 800 years ago, Arab and Berber tribes descended from the Mediterranean peninsula and launched slave raids against the indigenous African population, abducting women and children as slaves. Those enslaved were converted to Islam and raised to believe that their religious duty was to serve their masters faithfully. The relationship of master (bidanes) and slave (haratines) continues to this day, with thousands of haratines families owned as inheritable property by bidanes and denied basic human rights by Mauritania's Islamic courts." What is a "slave's" or descendents of "slaves" more accurate religion? The one before being enslaved or the one after?

truthshines

09/21/2003 02:31:56 PM

"aasif 9/11/03 4:04:48 PM What most of you people are misintrepreting is that we are not saying that Islam was the original religion of the African American, what we are saying is that many slaves brought here were originally muslim and were forced to convert." I was reading the website www.iAbolish.org which is an anti slavery website dealing with slavery today. I came across this paragraph which sounded similar to what Aasif wrote except the players are different:

truthshines

09/21/2003 02:10:01 PM

My question is are all the indigenous African religions (non-Abrhamic) specified as lawful and have sacred scriptures that Muslims recognize, thus allowed the tolerance of the Muslim state? Will all African religions be admitted to the dhimma? Are there some that will not? Which if any will be admitted to the dhimma and which if any will not be admitted?

truthshines

09/21/2003 02:09:49 PM

Since the followers of these earlier religions were chosen by God to receive authentic scriptures, still pratice monotheism, and respect a holy text and a holy law, they are, despite their subsequent errors, to be accorded a certain measure of tolerance within the Muslim state, that is to say, under a Muslim government...Those who follow a religion which is not specified as lawful, that is to say, who do not have a recognized sacred scripture, are not to be allowed the tolerance of the Muslim state...Those who, according to Shari'a rules, qualified to tolerance were admitted to the dhimma, a pact between the Muslim state and a non-Muslim community, by which the state conceded certain privileges and the community accepted certain duties and constraints.A member of a community in posseion of a dhimma was called a dhimmi." by Bernard Lewis "Multiple Identies of the Middle East"

truthshines

09/21/2003 02:09:22 PM

I have a question. I read the following: "Unlike Judaism and Christianity, Islam squarley confronts theproblem of religious tolerance, and lays down both the extent and the limits of the tolerance to be accorded to the other faiths. For Muslims, the treatment of the religous other is not a matter of opinion or choice, of changing interpretations and judgments according to circumstances. It rests on scriptural and legal texts, that is to say, for Mulsims, on holy writ and sacred law. These texts and laws make certain basic distinctions among non-Muslim religions and their followers. The first and most crucial is theological. Certain specified religions possess a scripture which Islam recognizes as authentic, or rather, to be precise, as having been authentic. Three are named in the Quran, as the Jews, the Christians, and the somewhat mysterious Sabines...

spagyrist

09/20/2003 08:47:20 PM

Bismillah. Mohammad was a warrior who like the catholic church/state religion used the mystery of the combination of Islam and Pagan religion to control and conqure the people. All and all, Islam is no different from catholism. Muhammad was a merchant of spotless reputation prior to receiving revelation. When the persecution became to great in pagan Mecca, he and his followers immigrated to Medina where they established a Muslim state. The state remained under siege by hostile pagan forces until the Muslim armies defeated them and removed their hostile rulers. con't

spagyrist

09/20/2003 08:46:58 PM

con't. As far as combining the pagan religion to 'control and conqure people' I would like to see your proofs. Islam is monotheism stripped of idolotry, believing in one transcendent God, owner of creation. Non-Muslims were allowed to keep their religion and were offered treaties insuring their rights. Furthermore, I find no evidence that Muhammad employed a 'relgious police' to enforce worship or the following of religious requirements. Peace be with you.

King_DavidII

09/20/2003 07:37:17 PM

Islam may have been the religion of north africa region but I do not recall that it was in the rest of africa. The closer to Egypt one got there were more,further south there were other religions and along the Somolia/ Ethiopian coast there were many followers of judiasm, down south they were the voodoo types of religions which are still practiced today. Islam is not a black african religion,as such, if so then Islam/Muslem slave traders were capturing and selling their Islam/Muslem brothers and sisters! No, Islam is a north african arab religion, any others who practice it reformed to it. In America the black reform to Islam/Muslem is an idea to break away from the White Man's religion of Christianity. Mohammad did not have his revelation until 568 or so years after the existance of "Jesus". Mohammad was a warrior who like the catholic church/state religion used the mystery of the combination of Islam and Pagan religion to control and conqure the people. All and all, Islam is no different from catholism.

truthshines

09/20/2003 10:13:02 AM

How much of an interest is there in the AA community in those religions? A lot of people practice one Abrahamic religion or another, but pretty much the only people who can keep African religions in existance are Africans and those of African heritage. Same is true for indigenous or traditional religions everywhere.

truthshines

09/20/2003 09:33:47 AM

Has anyone written about indigenous or traditional African religions (non-Abrahamic)?

monothesist

09/17/2003 06:58:30 PM

If you are interested in learning about religion in Africa may I suggest two books? Islam, Christianity and African Identity by Sulyman Nyang, whom I know personally... and West African Christianity by Sanneh. It will open your eyes on the evolution of faith and belief both in Africa and in the diaspora.

andy_f_90

09/15/2003 12:24:11 PM

Correction Ms. Parsons. Muslims are 6 million in the United States. Unfortunately the census doesn't count religious affiliation like in other countries, but the 3.5 million figure is just too low. In fact there are 3.5 Million African American Muslims alone including those who immigrated here from Africa.

andy_f_90

09/15/2003 12:22:13 PM

Agapebuilder, You people crack me up. If Muslims believed what you said about them, do you think they'd be calling themselves Muslims? I don't think so. Allah is the Supreme, Omnipotent, Omniscient, the Transcendent Being. He's not the SON OF GOD. God had no SON! He's above that. But he did have his obedient servants who preached the way to him. Anyway, if you know Hebrew slightly you'd come to appreciate who Allah really is, i.e. Yahweh!

businesmn9

09/13/2003 03:38:26 AM

I am a Christian who believes that Muslims who live in America are moderate, patriotic Americans and in no way support radical Islam from the Wohabi sect.

qtp3

09/12/2003 12:02:11 PM

agapebuilder Come on now. Don't mix Islam with gnosticism and call it Islam. Muhammed (PBUH) taught us through revelation, In the name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful. If you are going to cite Koran Please,use the intoduction that begins every chapter of Quran. Stop the Bid'a, please!!!!

agapebuilder

09/11/2003 10:54:39 PM

In the name of God the Father, the Most Gracious Son, the Most Merciful Holy Spirit: "(The true religion of Islam) is the baptism of Allah" (Koran 2:138), the religion of Abraham, who did not follow the laws but had fellowship with God. The baptism of Allah is the baptism of the Holy Spirit of Jesus the Most Gracious. Only through this baptism can we become a friend of Allah as Abraham did.

spagyrist

09/11/2003 09:56:16 PM

Bismillâh. I think the percentage of African slaves brought to America that were Muslim probably varied from one period to another, but I recall reading somewhere that at one time it was as high as 40 percent. - Spagyrist

aasif

09/11/2003 04:04:47 PM

What most of you people are misintrepreting is that we are not saying that Islam was the original religion of the African American, what we are saying is that many slaves brought here were originally muslim and were forced to convert. There were many other slaves brought here who worshipped other gods and had their own religions. To say that all African Americans were originally Muslims is false and facetious, it is like saying all Europeans were originally Christians. That did not happen until many centuries after the Christ himself. Until then there were Christians in Europe, btu there were also people of other religions. The same can be said of Africa and the rest of the world.

akasong

09/11/2003 02:53:38 PM

It's been said time and again that Islam is the original religion and therefore the correct religion for people who are of African descent. I believe that this idea is politically motivated. The reason I say this is because man's beginnings start in Africa. That is undisputed. However, what religions came before Islam? I would venture to guess, that since the advent of Islam, there were other religions in Africa. The faith was revealed in A.D. 610 to the "last prophet", Mohammed. To say that Islam is the natural religion for black people belittles the rich and long history of a great people.

truthshines

09/11/2003 02:39:44 PM

I was actually referring to the notion that Islam (not Christianity) is the Black people's original religion. That is the impression that I got from some Black people. Do Black people who are attracted to Islam still think that?

blueworld

09/11/2003 02:00:46 PM

FreeTruth: Yours is a rich, gentle, depth seeking Truth. And that it is Free, makes your Truth a true gift. Thank you so kindly for wording my own wonder: What is the "original" of anything? And, how can any particular spiritual expression (religion) be more of anybody's spirituality than another expression? Isn't it all about NOW? Isn't it about that which affords a person to best experience Spirit NOW?

FreeTruth

09/11/2003 01:43:11 PM

I had to laugh (with no disrespect) when I read that Christianity is African-Americans' "original religion" (truthshines) It may be the religion that many converted to once they were (unwillingly) brought to the US, but often the outward forms were used to avoid the wrath of those with more power and provide protection and cover for the rituals and beliefs of the religions they had been born into.

truthshines

09/10/2003 07:53:09 PM

Do African Americans who are attracted to Islam still believe it is more of a Black people's religion than Christianity? Their original religion?

truthshines

09/10/2003 07:51:11 PM

Is ASM a African American Muslim organization, or is it ethnically diverse?

bbdh

09/10/2003 09:55:27 AM

ASN?

introvert

09/10/2003 12:54:23 AM

I listened to his resignation speech, aired on c-span, and I was moved by many sections of his speech. He provided inspiring words for Muslims and African-Americans, and also gave many wonderful examples of how Christians, Muslims, Jews, Hindus, etc can come together in a pluralistic society to make our country a better place. I can only hope that many will heed his call!

ElGabilon

09/10/2003 12:35:43 AM

Dramatically resigned? There is not a single solitary individual on this planet who cannot be replaced. If you want to check to see how you or anyone else will be missed then try this experiment. Either you or the most so called profound individual (such as the Pope or an Ayatola) get a bucket. Fill it with water and put the hands in it up to your wrists. Take them out, and the hole that remains is the measure of how you'll be missed.

protestant_irish

09/09/2003 08:12:28 PM

They need to show men like this great soul. He clealry know the message of G-d or Alaah as muslim call him. This should be show and not what medai wich to brain wash us with. I have read the muslim Holy book those may not agree with it. I feel that it is specil and if look at waht done in afirca american community as done great thign to get young men on right path. He could gone hate way that his father did, but I thasnk you thast you did not God bless you.

sheikh50

09/09/2003 07:29:20 PM

The title should be "the most influential muslim man in the African American muslim community for the Past 4 decades". The article shows well, why I say so. Peace

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