For Your Independence Day Liturgy
Inspirational works to add to your own spiritual July 4 celebration.
07/04/2008 11:26:09 AM
I'm proud to be a Native American!
06/30/2008 03:07:39 AM
This country was based on theft, rape, and the intrusion on Indians as people. I believe this land would have been alot better off if it wasn't stolen from it's caretakers the American Indians. We cry everyday ffrom the destruction caused by the pollution and the need to make money off the natural resources by so called Americans. Only the true Americans care about this land, now and forever. Just now are we getting other people to see the plight of the land as we know it. I wish things would have started long ago. But, it very well may be too late! I hope there will some quality of life left to save? Later, Debra Rincon Lopez.
07/04/2007 11:51:38 PM
Yes, this country was founded by Christians. Yes, it was founded upon biblical principles. No, this does not change the debate at all. At the time of our country's founding, Christianity was the only religious option. The Constitution, the document by which all our country's laws are supposed to be based upon, is a living document. This means that it can- no, must change as society changes. "Men" used to mean white men and, to a lesser extent, white females. Now, the word often refers to all humans. A similar change has happened with the word "religion". I don't mind a politician that is public about their religion. I don't mind Christian politicians grounding their moral and ethical beliefs in their faith. What I do mind is when I am forced by law to comply with religious doctrine that I do not believe in, or when politicians use religious dogma as basis for their decisions.
07/04/2006 11:41:09 AM
Folks, do not confuse pop culture and personal opinion with the facts. This country WAS founded by Christians. NOT deists. Read their personal letters, our founding documents and contemporary biographical data. It's very clear that their faith was based on a very real and close relationship with a personal God. America is not the new "chosen nation", yet this nation IS blessed by the Creator. Problems arise when those who can't accept the truth of our country's origin want to remove it from all aspects of public life. Why not accept the FACT that this country was founded by Bible believing Christians upon Biblical principles and let it go? We all have the ability to worship however we want or not worship at all, but to deny the very manner of our founding is to deny history. No matter how you may rage against it, truth is truth and you can't change it. I submit to you, ladies and gentlemen, that it is the ones screaming "intolerance!" the loudest that are in direst need of a mirror!
07/04/2006 09:02:02 AM
Someone stated "But there is quite a big difference between that and believing that the USA is somehow God's (new) chosen nation.". I can perhaps agree; BUT, I don't think that is really the issue. While it may not be that America was "chosen by God" fortunately for us "God was chosen by America" - "IN GOD WE TRUST" and for as long as the undergirding notion when we were born maintains God will honor that trust with His blessing. As the trust disipates perhaps even disappears so may the blessing. Children who lose trust in their parents and as a result "emacipate" themselves to follow their own desires should not be surprised if even loving parents at some point decide to remove their support and blessing. Fortunately our heavenly Father has a long enduring patience and will await our repentance much longer than we deserve before deciding finally that we rally don't wish His further blessing.
07/03/2006 01:52:04 PM
Of course when Jefferson wrote that he meant white males who owned property. Afterall, he owned slaves himself. By the way, I believe we still struggle to live up to those noble words, maybe ,in some ways, as much as we did when they were written.
07/03/2006 12:22:51 PM
Thomas Jefferson wrote: “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness”. Last week Jerry Farwell stated that “you have to be a homosexual to make it Hollywood”. One man, a great uniter. One man, a sleezy divider. On this great day celebrating independence, we have to remember that many gave they lives so that the ones taking the “high road” may freely speak as well as the one taking the “low road”.
06/30/2006 10:15:26 PM
Here in my country we are celebrating Canada day. I hope all of my Americans friends have a safe and happy fourth of July celebrating your first ammendment rights.
06/30/2006 08:05:01 PM
"""We hold these truths to be self-evident,"" We. Hold these truths to be *self-evident.* Not revealed in a book, or dispensed by a religious authority. We hold these truths to be self-evident. Anyone that ain't clued into that, does not understand America. Period. Capiche?
06/30/2006 07:49:27 PM
""The notion that all people are born as equals is a very spurious one, and especially as the person who wrote that kept slaves. (Please correct me if I'm wrong?)"" Guess what, Fromoz. Our 'Founding Fathers' knew well the world they lived in. And they didn't only hope for better. They *demanded* beter. Of *us.* Right here, right now. Better, Or not. Welcome to the future.
06/30/2006 07:04:58 PM
The notion that all people are born as equals is a very spurious one, and especially as the person who wrote that kept slaves. (Please correct me if I'm wrong?) If Government is tied to a particular religion people can't be born with equal rights, because those who wish to follow different religions, or have no religious beliefs at all are denigrated and disadvantaged. The Bible teaches "You will have no other God" and calls for the murder of those who will not seek-out the Lord God of Israel. To tie Government to such a religion is to denigrate and discriminate against those who do not believe, those perhaps who have had their hearts hardened by God so they can't believe, or those who have been rejected by God. Government should be for all and should demonstrate to people that they are regarded as equals despite their religious beliefs, or lack of religious beliefs.
06/30/2006 05:33:12 PM
the 4th of July is one of my favorite holidays. growing up my family threw these big parties in our backyard, complete with fireworks, grilling out, bare feet, sprinklers, watermelon, etc. now that I have kids of my own, I think spending a few minutes with one of these readings seems a great idea. THEN we can party :)
07/07/2002 12:14:03 PM
We are a religious people, but are we a religious nation? I hope not, because I can't see how we can be so without compulsion and enforcement. Do we want to do that here? There are so many examples of societies where enforced piety, be it in service to Christianity, Islam, Marxism, the Emperor, the Fatherland, or whatever, have brought about little but pain, death, and destruction. A secular, law-based society made up of a diversity of religious and non-religious people sounds pretty good compared to those nightmare regimes, doesn’t it?
07/07/2002 12:13:39 PM
It's good that Beliefnet asks this question. I have always been really uncomfortable with the tendency of those on the Christian right to conflate God and patriotism. I love my country, and I love God, and I do believe it is important for all Americans to bring their moral grounding to bear on their responsibilities as citizens. But there is quite a big difference between that and believing that the USA is somehow God's (new) chosen nation. This attitude leads to hubris which has gotten us into trouble repeatedly. It also makes second class citizens of those Americans who can't or won't embrace the mythos of American exceptionalism.
07/04/2002 10:55:00 AM
All people came from God ,(IF) you accept and beleave in him in your life ,you will go back to God. IF you do not you will parish. So it does not matter who or what you are ,you will only be left with one disition : Do I accept and bealeave in God or not ? Your whole question in your life is that and next is where do you want to spend eternity? Once you have desided God,you must eccept Jesus as your savior and repent of your sins and ask for forgiveness ,and then you will have eternity in heaven ,this is your desistion only ,for we all will stand in front of God one day to only answer to ourselves what have we done in our lives to please him (Jesus),and you will not be able to stand before him and say : I did not hear of you and no-one told me of you. So my dear friend search with all your heart and soul and chose God.This will be your greatest asset in life and you will be a whole person because of it ,and life will have total meaning,and you will have purpose,and love forever.
07/04/2002 10:31:34 AM
As long as our country has "IN GOD WE TRUST", on it's money, I, for one will continue to believe that our country's destiny IS dependant on God. I do not push my belief on ANYONE, at any time, but this had to be said. Independence depends on our belief that we are free to believe as we choose, and I will fight to the death to defend that right.
07/03/2002 03:42:10 PM
Amen to MaryKate! I took the poll and was stunned to see that over 40% tie their patriotism in with their beliefs. Religious fundamentalism is dangerous whether it's Christianity or Islam. There is a middle path between the two that respects people of all faiths AND of none. Pray that more people will join humankind on this middle path, rather than "their own".
07/03/2002 01:43:52 PM
I believe in the Divine God who created this earth and all in it. As His creation we must humble ourselves and live according to His word. When that happens, we will know the joy of true peace in this world. Our hearts must change. We must have His love in our hearts for each other and then this world will know the true blessing of God. I know many will say this is passe, but the 10 commandments are as viable now as when they were written.
07/03/2002 06:28:19 AM
Try and imagine this world as a world of peace and compashion for all to enjoy and be a part of. A world without Gods or the people that claim to speak to them. Let this Independence Day be a day to reflect what a wonderful world we could share with other, if it were free of the Gods and the Hate. I know this will not happen this year or next, though one day it will. But take just a minute to think about what a wonderful place to live this Earth of ours could be if people would care as much about each other as they seem to care about such things as Santa Claus, The Easter Rabbit, The Tooth Fairy or there Gods. The human race will go far, they will journey to the stars and beyond if they wish to, or they can end it with a bright flash of light and a world not even the cockroaches will want. Everyone please have a very happy and safe Fourth of July Holiday, and thank you for taking the time to read this ! Obwankanobe2121@yahoo.com
07/03/2002 01:02:32 AM
Every so often people start hollering about how this is a Christian country which was founded by Christian men. I think that it is time to set the record straight. This country was founded by Diests, who had little if anything to do with Christianity, and by religious bigots like the Pilgrims who condemned and murdered people who didn't believe as they did. Our bicameral system of government was directly stolen from the Iroquois nation whose culture and governmental system was flourishing long before any contact with Europeans. The American Revolution was financed by a Jew-Chiam Solomon--whose decendants have yet to see one penny of the loans that this man gave to get this country going. African Americans were never considered human, and were only counted as 3/5 of a person and then only during a census. Portions of my own church (the Roman Catholic Church) were slave holders (both the Maryland Jesuits and Franciscans had slaves)and the chatechism for slaves would make Jesus weep.