John Lennon: A New Jesus?
Only after the Beatles started experimenting with drugs did they begin to talk openly about belief in God.
04/19/2011 08:50:36 AM
Please take a look at the following apocalyptic commentary involving the Beatles, it is very interesting: http://ahutunderafigtree.blogspot.com/
11/17/2009 01:16:19 PM
This is a nice excerpt. Beliefnet readers will also enjoy the new John Lennon bio, "The Cynical Idealist: A Spiritual Biography of John Lennon," by Gary Tillery from Quest Books. In the book, Tillery credits Lennon with making significant contributions to many modern spiritual movements, including men's liberation, guided meditation ("Imagine"), and global peace. An excerpt from the book is available on the author's page at Amazon. If you want to review it for Beliefnet, send me an email. Thanks!
08/24/2006 03:05:09 PM
I honestly believe these issues are not for us to decide. How people feel about GOD is strictly up to them, however, I feel it could not hurt anyone in this country. What I am most amazed at is the hypocrisy of it all, human beings tend to give themselves to much credit.
08/23/2006 07:07:09 PM
That Jesus Christ choose "thick and ordinary" apostles (Lennon's words), which "spoiled it," shows our Lord's Divinity. He debased the haughty (like the "Jews" then), and exalted the humble. Lennon was surrounded daily by Jews & atheists, as managers, aides, advisors, accountants, lawyers. These colored his theology during 1962-74. RE Harrison and that verse in "Awaiting on you all," one may see it on its own, or in context of ISKON groupies. George swapped the Beatles'agnosticism ("no knowledge"), for dharma-based universalism of King Asoka which teaches "all roads lead to God." "Any Road," released posthumously on BRAINWASHED, has a dichotomy. It could be taken to mean "any belief" in ANY God will lead you to Heaven, Nirvana, etc. Or, to mean, IF YOU ARE NOT CAREFUL AND WISE, "any road" will take you to NOWHERE ("...if you don't know where you're going..." -- alluding to the Beatles' agnostic years). Proverbs 4:7, Brothers and Sisters!
08/23/2006 12:17:16 PM
Sheri555stc, it's always a good idea to know what you're talking about. John never said he WAS Jesus. He said that at that moment in time his band was bigger than Jesus in the minds of the young, and he was probably right in a lot of cases. He never said he was Jesus. And he wasn't bragging- John could just be flip when making a point.
08/23/2006 10:06:43 AM
A read-through a biography of John will reveal that he was a very troubled man in search of inner peace. His father abandoned him for the sea at an early age, his mother abandoned him for another man when he was still a boy so he went to live with his Aunt Mimi who was not demonstratively affectionate. Later, John watched his mother die in a road accident. No wonder he occasionally rejected/sought out the divine in himself and others. His search for love and peace took him to Jesus, drugs, the Maharishi, and ultimately Yoko. He was smart, witty, clever, vicious, smarmy, condescending, yet very human. It has taken me a long time to warm up to John but now he's one of my 4 favourite Beatles. hh
08/22/2006 08:53:23 PM
oh, and jon, is Billy Graham lacking courage, character or conscience? i could name others, but since he's as beloved and accepted in America as apple pie... how can you make such broad, generalized statements?
08/22/2006 08:37:00 PM
good observation, observer3. i agree with you that beliefs have to be pretty firmly held to be willing to die for them, whether others think the content of the beliefs are false or not, e.g. the suicide bombings of muslim terrorists who believe that their western intended victims are evil. in the case of John Lennon and Jesus, he wasn't the first to think that he was Jesus, under the influence of drugs, or sober; and, he won't be the last to die and find that his "god" complex was sadly misguided/informed! As for people in Jesus' day trying to "force" him into divinity, if you READ YOUR BIBLES, you will see that it was a natural/ earthly/secular king that they were seeking and it was JESUS HIMSELF who alluded to His own divinity. (see matt.16.21-23, matt.26.52-56; and, earlier in the chapter in matt.16.13-19, when Peter revealed his understanding into who Christ truly was, among other references).
08/21/2006 10:19:04 PM
Religion is My Hobby said: Great statement! It IS what I believe, that Jesus, a man, who was a brilliant observer, taught others to see a different way and then follow that way, who was then turned into a god to further someone elses agenda. Question: why were all the "someone else's" (the apostles) willing to to devote many hard decades to their agenda, only to suffer and die horrible deaths-for a "lie" (Christ=God)?! Even suicide bombers would not blow themselves up if they knew it was a hoax!
08/20/2006 03:16:42 PM
I rewatched the documentary Imagine recently and it is very interesting to see the same attitudes expressed in late 60' early 70's still alive and well. There is even a scene where a KKK member proudly announces on TV that they will commit acts of terrorism if the Beatles perform that night. The interviewer didn't condemn him, but simply asked, "like what?". All that because John made a comment about Jesus. Things change but they remain the same. At a time when he could have sat down written songs and made millions while keeping quiet he risked everything to make and ad for peace. Character, courage, conscience. Something sadly lacking in the leadership of this country and Christian leaders. Why do think there has been such a propaganda compaign to marginalize him? He was famous person speaking truth to power.
08/20/2006 08:59:48 AM
How right John was in thinking that Jesus had been co-opted by the folks of the time and of today. Far too true. Its just proof that Jesus Christ is not the intellectual property of the church. It just proves you don't have to identify as "Christian" to believe in Christ and have an affinity for Him; indeed it would be good for us Christians to take a second look at the points of view of others. Different does not mean wrong. There is a lesson to be learned. I'm a diehard Lennon/Beatle fan anyway! All you need is Love..Love is all you need. Sound familiar?
08/18/2006 07:42:54 AM
"It's in our DNA." COOL! Religion IS an instinct. It is in out genes. "Some think they are "it." " Even worse is when others are convinced too.
08/18/2006 07:32:06 AM
Everyone is looking for the Messiah. Even Atheists. Some think they are "it." It's in our DNA.
08/18/2006 06:40:04 AM
"He wondered whether Christ, like the Beatles, had had divinity thrust on him by over-zealous followers. Had Jesus been someone with a gift for storytelling, insight into the human condition, and the ability to foretell the future, who had been turned into a god figure against his will? John admired his central teachings of love, justice, and seeking the kingdom of heaven but felt that Jesus had been co-opted by people with a different agenda." Great statement! It IS what I believe, that Jesus, a man, who was a brilliant observer, taught others to see a different way and then follow that way, who was then turned into a god to further someone elses agenda. I thought it was a good article and enjoyed the ending - "knowing that the drugs would soon wear off and this new Jesus would go back to being John."
08/17/2006 08:47:37 PM
I like the article's point that John Lennon, while expressing a certain antagonism toward organized religion, also admired and thought about Jesus - much more than reported. That's because the Beatles experienced a kind of success that boggles the mind. They were fawned over as if Christ had come back as four Liverpudlians with long hair and smirks. The success - which included unwarranted adulation as well as unwarranted resentment from critics - popped their bourgeoi bubble. They ended up with more money than they knew what to do with, and more attention, too. It forced them to turn to bigger issues and to look up. It also reminded them of what Jesus had experienced, as recorded in the Gospels. In the end, they found themselves connecting to the story of Jesus in ways they'd never anticipated. And that is, in itself, an interesting insight.
08/17/2006 08:41:56 PM
I liked this article. It was a lot better than its misleading title. One has to squint to see the connection - and the last paragraph ends it with a humorous story, but one that doesn't support the title so much as show that the title puts too much stock in that last paragraph.
08/17/2006 10:32:54 AM
I'm so sick of hearing John's "Jesus comment" taken out of context. He was NOT bragging...he was COMPLAINING when he said that. He thought the attention the Beatles were getting was great, but was disturbed by the fact that teens paid more attention to the Beatles than to Jesus! He explained this shortly after the comment was made...
08/17/2006 08:06:06 AM
Imagine there's no John Lennon? Until I hear his name, I forget who this rock idol was. How many billions of people have never and will never hear about this English guitar player? Seriously, how typical do Lennon and his other ex-band memebers look now? Some good songs, some wierd fans and life moves along.
08/17/2006 06:37:10 AM
"His boyhood friend Pete Shotton told of a meeting John called in May 1968 to tell Paul, George, and Ringo that he was Jesus Christ reincarnated. He wanted an authorized statement to that effect put out." And people wonder why John's my favourite Beatle. ;)
08/17/2006 01:10:50 AM
08/16/2006 10:09:59 PM
What an odd way to end the article. I felt like it was moving toward conclusion or resolution, but there was none.